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By Conal McGarrity
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When Can a Friendly Chat with Police Turn Into Something More Sinister?

We have all seen police crime dramas on TV where officers invite people to the police station for an informal or friendly chat only to trick them into saying far more than they would have liked.

In the current pandemic climate, it is more important than ever for the public to be vigilant of the possibility that a friendly chat with an officer could result in a conviction of an offence unnecessarily. It can also cause potential injustices between those who decide to take or not take advice during one of these so-called friendly chats. Before we look at what might happen, let us examine why it happens.

Why Do Police Officers Invite People In For A Friendly ‘Chat’?

It is completely normal for police officers to speak to individuals during an investigation, whether they are a witness, suspect or simply someone who needs to be ruled out of the investigation. However, there is a clear distinction between them which we will discuss later. It is often the case that people are invited into the police station for a chat or “to assist with enquiries” and are reassured that they are “free to leave at any time” and “there’s nothing to worry about”. Police officers may do this for several reasons; let’s look at some of the possibilities;

No power to arrest due to insufficient evidence – Scenario 1

The Police and Criminal Evidence Act provide police officers with powers to arrest. However, in order to arrest in these circumstances (i.e. after an alleged offence has been committed) they need grounds to suspect that the person was involved in the commission of the offence. If the officer doesn’t have that suspicion, then their only alternative would be to invite you in for an informal chat. In these circumstances, an officer would be entitled to speak with an individual informally. Indeed, there is nothing to prevent a police officer from speaking to anybody. Whether that person consents to speaking with the police officer is obviously another matter. In these circumstances it may be that after speaking with the individual concerned, the officer either;

  • Has reasonable grounds to suspect that the person has committed an offence. In which case they must consider whether an arrest is necessary (see below), or;

  • Treat the person as a witness and request a formal statement, or; Rule out the person as either a suspect or a witness.

No power to arrest due to it being unnecessary – Scenario 2

As well suspicion, the act stipulates that an officer may only arrest where that arrest is “necessary”. Police must satisfy one of several criteria to determine that it is. One example is where the arrest was necessary for the officer to ascertain the name and address of the individual. Clearly if an officer calls to your house and asks you to come into the police station they are already aware of your identity so an arrest would not be necessary. BUT they still may believe that you did commit the offence.

What Happens If I Go To The Police Station For A Chat?

We are aware of situations where clients have been invited in for a friendly chat and are taken by complete surprise when, on arrival, they are ushered into an interview room a recording is started and a formal interview under caution begins. Why do police officers do this when they clearly suspect the individual of committing an offence? One can only speculate, perhaps it is to catch you off guard or because they do not want you to attend with a solicitor. The fact is that if you are suspected of committing an offence you have legal rights which are in law to protect individuals.

Do I Have The Right To A Legal Advice?

The short answer is yes absolutely; even if you have not been arrested and are being interviewed voluntarily you have the right to independent legal advice. The police must tell you this at the start of the interview. However, in our experience, often people choose to simply carry on with the interview rather than wait for a solicitor to attend or return to the police station with a solicitor. The police must also “caution” any person that they suspect may have committed an offence prior to asking them any questions.

Again, in our experience of speaking with persons who have continued to be interviewed without advice, they often feel that it is too late, “I’m here now…. the interview has started.”. It is so important not to continue, be brave and simply say, “I’d like to stop there and get some legal advice please”. The interview must stop, immediately, it is the smart thing to do.

Does asking for a Solicitor make me look guilty? Whatever you think the perception might be, seeking advice before an interview is crucial. This about it like this, “what if the police officer was being interviewed about an alleged offence, would he or she obtain legal advice?” The answer is yes of course they would.  

There are a few other points you need to consider

  • It does not matter what the interviewing officer thinks, the decision as to what happens after the interview is somebody else’s.

  • You are being interviewed because the officer already suspects that you may have been involved. If you looked innocent, they would not be speaking to you.

  • Just because they suspect you “may have” committed an offence does not mean they can prove you have done anything wrong.

  • They do not interview you for your own good, the purpose of an interview is to secure “evidence” by questioning, and that is “evidence” against you.

  • In law the burden of proof is on the prosecution, they have to prove that you are guilty; it is not for you to prove that you are innocent.

“Obtaining advice is the smart thing to do, waiving your right free legal advice would be foolish”  

How Can A Solicitor Help?

A solicitor will assist in several ways:

  • Obtaining Disclosure from Police: – They will obtain disclosure from the police of what it is that they want to question you about, in particular what offence they are investigating and more importantly whether they have any evidence to suggest your involvement. Remember, there is a huge difference between reasonable suspicion and evidence which they could persuade a court beyond all reasonable doubt. Without legal advice, you’ll be going into an interview blind without knowing what they know or perhaps more importantly what they don’t know.

  • Whether to exercise your right to silence – They will advise you in relation to whether to answer questions. They cannot tell you what to say, but they can tell you what not to say and what questions should not be answered. There can, in some circumstances, be implications in not answering questions. They will explain this to you and be able to advise on whether those circumstances are or not likely to arise.

  • Lawyers should be a key part of the interview – As is often seen on the TV, a lawyer’s role is not to sit and make notes or do nothing. They are there to protect your rights during the interview, they will intervene if inappropriate questions are made.

  • Other lines of enquiry – In some circumstances a lawyer may make a request that an alternate line of enquiry is pursued which points guilt away from you. The police are under a duty to pursue all reasonable lines of enquiry. Of course, they may not, but a failure to do so, may have dire consequences for the prosecution should they decide to prosecute you and have not perused other reasonable enquiries.

  • Lawyers can make representations on your behalf – Once an interview has finished, a lawyer can make representations on your behalf either to the police, or in most circumstances to the Crown Prosecution Service who will make a decision as to whether there is sufficient evidence to prosecute. Representations might be that there is insufficient evidence, that further enquiries should be conducted, or that even though there may be sufficient evidence, it is not in the public interest to prosecute.

 Waiving your right to a Solicitor could work against you

If you are innocent, you might assume that you can defend yourself. After all, all you need to do is tell the truth, right? Wrong! During a police interview, the police may try to trick you into saying things that may incriminate you. Without a solicitor by your side, there is a risk you could say things that will be held against you in court. You may be asked about a side issue, not relevant to the offence, you may tell a little lie, not about your involvement in an offence but perhaps something which is embarrassing. Once the police can prove that it is a lie then everything else you have said is potentially disregarded.

Often clients come to see us facing prosecution and having decided not to take legal advice in interview. We regularly see clients who are being prosecuted unnecessarily because they didn’t have legal advice at the police station and either made a confession or lied or provided police with a pin code to their mobile because they thought they had to, and that phone revealed evidence of something completely different. If you need a lawyer in relation to a crime, please contact a member of staff with the team at P.A.Duffy and Co Solicitors.

From the moment you arrive at the station for questioning to the potential court case, we will guide you through the process and give you the defence you deserve. 

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